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Poster: Skippy61 Date: Jul 20, 2014 10:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: beast of a show for a newbie

i regret to say i have not been on this forum for far too long. i have a friend that has heard of the Dead but only a bit,Truckin' Touch of Grey etc...i am looking for tips for a show that will bring her into the fold and beginning loving the Dead as we all do...please my fellow DeadHeads help a brother out

Peace

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Poster: Jobygoob Date: Jul 24, 2014 8:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: beast of a show for a newbie

Sort of agree with the folks suggesting American Beauty or Workingman's Dead, but a better choice in my opinion would be Dick's Pick's 8 at Harpur College, one of the best acoustic sets ever which captures the feel of those two albums, plus a MONSTER electric set that follows.

9/20/70 is another show that accomplishes the same thing with some amazing guests in the acoustic set...David Nelson and David Grisman on guitar and Mandolin.

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Jul 22, 2014 10:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: beast of a show for a newbie

For " newbies" I always recommend the 3 nights at alpine valley in 1989. Great starter sets for them. Songs they may know and some good jamming. No trippiness but you can always save those gigs for them down the road

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jul 21, 2014 12:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: beast of a show for a newbie

I guess because you asked for "shows" folks just followed it without thinking, but frankly, NO ONE WAS thinking...you've been bored w this before; having done this dozens and dozens of times, you CANNOT start w a show, not even my beloved 68.

You start w studio albums, Work/Beauty. Period. That wins them over since they realize they can play and they can sing. If it doesn't, drop the project.

Truly.

It takes a long time to get them to a show w poor vocals (most all shows, any era, right?) and all the other issues over the yrs....unless they were already a jam band fan, in which case, this is unnecessary, by defn, right?, I have never known it to work by either 1) taking a person to a show, or 2) playing them a show...it just wasn't done, in my day anyhoo...

Anyone hereabouts ready to say that you won over a complete novice by using live recordings rather than studio/live releases?

I just don't think so...

;)

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Poster: BVD Date: Jul 21, 2014 4:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: beast of a show for a newbie

Agree with Mr. Tell on this one. One night many,many years ago (Christmas Eve-1970) I was at a friends house and ate waaaaaaay to much orange sunshine and was having a rough go of it. I was laying on the floor in the living room and someone put A.B. on the turntable.From the opening chords of Box of Rain I immediately started feeling better and was mellowing out. By the time Truckin' came on I had dropped a couple of hundred thousand feet and could actually put a sentence together. If someone would have put on 10/12/68 I probably would have ran out of there screaming. Studio albums are the way to go for newbies.IMO. Almost a year passed before I saw them live at the Felt Forum. I was ready. During that time I had bought every album available and got familiar with their work. There might have been a few tapes available by then. I honestly don't remember.

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Poster: sakanaband Date: Jul 21, 2014 11:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: beast of a show for a newbie

I'm amazed nobody has suggested JGB. Garcia ' s bands are almost always more approachable for a newb. Vocals are much less the issue and he largely sticks to covers of standards. The Melvin Sears years are a no-brainer and I'd also think Garcia and Saunders is pretty accessible and shows off Garcia ' s guitar chops exceptionally well with a straightforward sound. 1973 Berkeley stuff is exemplary without lame flute and mediocre sax work added the next couple years.

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Poster: user unknown Date: Jul 21, 2014 6:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: beast of a show for a newbie

Eternally Grateful from Starbucks Music is a decent introduction too. It is a 2 disc set. Disc 1 is all studio, and disc 2 is live material.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jul 21, 2014 1:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: beast of a show for a newbie

6-24-70

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Poster: sambonk2 Date: Jul 24, 2014 10:41am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: beast of a show for a newbie

IMHO..BEST GD SHOW EVER PLAYED

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Jul 21, 2014 9:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: beast of a show for a newbie

I depends what other music she likes . I would say late 72, but for some, those very deep jams/space we love might be initially off putting . Something form the early 80's might work . A 77 show, or maybe an 89 show ? Maybe a couple of shows from different periods .

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Poster: ColdRain108 Date: Jul 22, 2014 6:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: beast of a show for a newbie

E72 and Skull and Roses did it for me - peaked my interest enough to go see them live.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDNDgcHcD04

Not a mind blowing show by tripping head standards, but really nice vocals and very clean, prefect for a newb.

I would never have fallen this hard for them without the live shows though.

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Jul 23, 2014 10:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: beast of a show for a newbie

Agree. Those are good choices.

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Jul 21, 2014 1:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: beast of a show for a newbie

lewiston maine 9.6.80

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Poster: Turnphilup to 11 Date: Jul 21, 2014 4:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: beast of a show for a newbie

Just talked about.

https://archive.org/details/gd76-07-18.sbd.ferguson.244.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jul 21, 2014 7:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: beast of a show for a newbie

10-09-84, 10-12-84 and 7-31-82 were the tapes that a friend educated me with in college. I still think they are good places to start.

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Poster: Left Hand Monkey Date: Jul 21, 2014 7:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: beast of a show for a newbie

Well since she knows TOG, start her off with 4-4-87. It is a very novice-friendly show with Iko, Hand Jive, Promised Land, PITB, One of the better BOR, a great Althea, Dew, and oh yeah, Truckin'.

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Poster: user unknown Date: Jul 21, 2014 6:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: beast of a show for a newbie

4/27/1971...5 discs if you include the NRPS sets.

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Poster: duckpond74 Date: Jul 21, 2014 10:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: beast of a show for a newbie

that works!

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Jul 21, 2014 12:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: beast of a show for a newbie

Next night would be my pick. 1971 is good for newbs because the sound is rich, Pigpen is in great form, and the heady jams only go so deep before coming back to the theme. That said, the spacey jams here are heavy and among the best ever.

https://archive.org/details/gd1971-04-28.sbd.miller.106099.flac16

For that post-hiatus sound, why not just try the Red Rocks masterpiece, 7/8/78? I don't think you'll get any complaints.

https://archive.org/details/gd1978-07-08.sbd.miller.106070.flac16

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Poster: user unknown Date: Jul 21, 2014 1:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: beast of a show for a newbie

Seems we've had this conversation before, and I have to admit the 4/28 show is right up there. But can you really go wrong with any of the shows from that 5 day Fillmore run?

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Jul 22, 2014 7:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: beast of a show for a newbie

Well since you asked... I'm actually not a huge fan of 4/27. The Beach Boys kind of kill it for me. I'll take 4/28 and 4/29(!) all day over that one.

OP should have his friend listen to the jam that starts with Alligator.

https://archive.org/details/gd1971-04-29.sbd.multitracks.miller.114350.flac16

However, Tell makes a good point. Perhaps it's best to think of albums rather than shows at first. Beauty and Workingman's are great ones to start with.